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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.21 19:18:00 -
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Apples and Oranges.
However you can throw the oranges much further with no real effort and they hit people almost as hard as apples do.
So why use apples?
I will add that Torps needed this kind of change, I just think they have been buffed a little too far.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.22 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Daelin Blackleaf on 22/11/2007 02:01:58
Quick question, I don't have all my usual stats with me and it's nearly 2am here.
Approximate damage at 25km vs a stationary target:
Hyperion 8x 425mm, 3x MagStab, Javelin = 760 8x Neutrons, 3x MagStab, Null = 500
Maelstrom 8x 1400mm Howitzer, 3x Gyro, Quake = 625 8x 800m Repeating, 3x Gyro, Barrage = 610
Abaddon 8x Tachyon, 3x Heatsink, Gleam = 780 8x Megapulse, 3x Heatsink, Scortch = 725
Raven 6x Siege, 3x BCU, Faction Torps = What?
Ignore signature resolution and assume the target is a freighter or heavily painted ship. What kind of damage are we talking about here?
Also feel free to correct my numbers... like I said it's 2am. 
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.22 10:32:00 -
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Not much fitting room on any of the other ships mentioned with those modules fitted either.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.22 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: d026 you are NOT gonna ignore sig radius!
No, I really am. You can assume adequate TP's have been fitted, or I have a couple of tacklers with painters, or I'm shooting at a freighter. Whatever floats your boat.
I'm aware of the effect of sig radius, I can read, if I couldn't your reply still wouldn't have done me much good. I'm asking for a number, not a basic missile tutorial.
You took all that effort to reply and failed to mention that number.
The correct answer, or at least the one I'm getting from EFT, is 948
Javelin = 697 Faction = 948 Rage = 990
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.23 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: d026
on a freighter yeah but yoyu wont even get those 990 dps on another raven if not painted.
But the target will be painted, much like any target my Blaster Rokh goes after will be webbed and scrambled despite me not fitting a webber or a scrambler.
...and then you go off on your tutorial again and go as far as to use rage as your example to skew things to your side of the argument. Most of us know about signature radius and explosion velocity, most of us know the typical sig radius of each ship class. Anyone who doesn't will quickly prove their lack of knowledge. There is no need to assume everyone but you doesn't have a clue how the game works.
I don't fly a Megathron for anything but solo lulz it's simply not as good as the Rokh with blasters the way I use it. I'm very much looking forward to the Torp changes, though I am worried that it will bring about the Age of the Raven and instead of tweaking the torps a little, as I believe they should, the nerfbat will be swung too hard and in the wrong place. I don't want my Raven to be uber short-term, I want it to be good long-term.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.23 18:20:00 -
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How do people manage to reply to a post while ignoring it's content so thoroughly.
Where did I say I intended to achieve 990 dps. I only asked about the dps value regarding faction torpedoes. When I was able to get the data myself I posted the values for rage, javelin, and caldari navy torps in case anyone else was curious.
Did I mention DG Torps?
Again with my mega. Just because I have an Intaki protrait doesn't mean I fly a Megathron. Indeed my previous post tells you such.
Yes, 948 dps won't be done to anything with a sig below 450 unless it is painted. It will still do significant DPS for the size class it is hitting especially with painters on them. In addition a plate-mega won't be doing it's 1160 dps outside 6.8km to any ship. Indeed it won't be doing any damage at 19.4km so how that fits into a response to my original question regarding damage at 25km is beyond me.
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